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John Thoresby (1626 - 30 Oct 1679)

A wool merchant of Leeds. He served in the parliamentarian army under Fairfax. His wife, Ruth (d. 1669), was daughter of Ralph Idle of Bulmer, near York (Ducatus, 73). "The Thoresby lineage could allegedly be traced back to the time of King Canute and at the time of the Norman conquest was seated at Thoresby in Yorkshire. Ralph Thoresby did extensive research on his pedigree and was especially proud of the connection with John Thoresby, the archbishop of York" (ODNB entry for Ralph Thoresby).

"John Thoresby established for himself a museum of coins and medals, purchasing at great expense two pre-existing collections owned by the Fairfax family and another family called Stonehouse" (Wikipedia).
Collector (major)
Relevant locations: Frequented Mill Hill Chapel, Leeds
Residence at Leeds, Leeds Parish
Relationships: John Thoresby was a father of Ralph Thoresby (1658-1725)
John Thoresby was a husband of Ruth Thoresby (-1669)

George Thoresby (-1696/7) was a brother of John Thoresby
John Thoresby (1592-20 Sep 1661) was a father of John Thoresby
Joshua Thoresby (-fl. 1703) was a brother of John Thoresby
Linked print sources: as Mentioned or referenced by - A Letter from Dr. Lister of York, Containing an Account of Several Curious Observations made by him about Antiquities, &c..
as Mentions or references - Ducatus Leodiensis; or the topography of the town and parish of Leedes and parts adjacent ...
References in Documents:
Selections from Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London (1665-1669)
( 319 ) VII. A Letter from Mr. Ralph Thoresby, to Dr. Martin Lister, Coll. Med. Lond. & S.R.S. giving an Account of a Roman Pottery, near Leeds in Yorkshire. SIR,Sir,

I Hadhad once the Happiness in my Father's time to see you here, and take very kindly your honourable mention of him in your curious Letter Published in the Philosophical Collect, N° 4. The Altar is yet with me, with a considerable addition of other Curiosities, relating as well to Antiquitys as natural Rarities, to which (if I misremember not) you was a Benefactor, in bestowing some valuable scars of a Coraline Urn, and of a Jet Ring, with some Indian Fruit, &c. my natural Propension to such things steals away more time then I can well afford, and makes me also troublesome to such generous tempers, as I find as well willing as able to assist me; and therefore I presume this once to desire your thoughts concerning a Roman Pottery that I have lately discovered in my Survey of this Parish. 'Tis upon Blackmore, about two Miles from Leedes (the old Leogeolium) the Name Hawcaster rig gave me the first occasion to hope for some Roman Ruines there; but instead of the Remains of a regular Camp or Fortification, I was surprised to find several Rounds, or circular Heaps of Rubbish, abundantly too small for any Military use; one by the Wheel was Sixteen Perches round, another in walking Seventy six Paces, and these I take to be Ruines of some of the very Furnaces; ’tis a Sandy Ground, yet plenty of Clay at no great distance; The Countrey People tell me of heaps of Stagg and Cinders, but I had not the hap to meet with any, the place ( 320 ) being grown over with Moss, &c. and whole at present covered with Snow, that I can make no further Discovery till more seasonable Weather; in the mean time I should be glad to know of you the bigness of those Metæ you observed at Santon, and what Authors treat of the Roman Plasticks. I am ready to fancy these might be for their Bricks, because of the great plenty of Clay in the Neighbourhood, and the great number of those Roman Bricks, yet to be seen in the Ruines of Kirkstall-Abbey, and that it belonged to the Romans, I conclude, partly because the Inhabitants have no Tradition of any Modern Pottery, but chiefly because it is seated upon a Branch of the Roman-way, or one of their Viæ Vicinnales, that leads from the great Military Road upon Bramham-moor, by Thorner, Shadwell, and Kirkstall to Cambodunum, besides the very name seems to import some Roman Castrum. Near the adjoining Eminency that the Saxons call'dcalled Haws or Hougs, and the word is yet retained in some parts of Yorkshire, witness Hamleton-Hough in the Road to Selby; and to conclude, the Village that succeeded the Old Pottery is called Potter-Newton. If you please, Sir, to favour me with a Line, that I may have your Sanction, if these Conjectures be so happy as to merit it, you will thereby very much honour, Worthy Sir, Yours, &c.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

Rock-Crystal, half a Foot round one Way, and within half an Inch of it, the other. It was brought me from Milan by Dr. Jabes Cay, who observed therein the Modus Concrescendi in the Middle, different from that of the out-side. Sometimes there remains a small Drop in the Middle of a transparent Peble that will never take the solid Form. Of the Iris or lesser Crystals, here are several Sorts, as those called Downham Diamonds, from the Place in Craven where they are found. s S ome are very small, others larger and very great, an Inch and half round; from Dr. Hargrave of Coln. The like Sort of Diamonds from Harrowgate Spaws near Knaresborough: They are found at the Mole-hills (near the Sulphur-well) after Rain; as are also those at Downham. Brindle-stones from the County of Kerry in Ireland, transparent and large, near two Inches in Circumference one way, and above 2 ½ the other. Two others of a pale Amethistine Colour. Don. D. M. Marshal, Dublin. The Iris minima Cambrensis from the Isle of Anglesey. Don. R R. D D. Episc. Carl. The Bristol Diamonds, of different Degrees of Transparency, and Sizes, of which one very much resembles that engraved Lh. Tab. I. 15. Pseudo-Adamantes from Kings-Weston in Gloucestershire: Other three Samples very fine from the same Place. Don. D. Jo. Woodward M. D. Some of these are very transparent. A Rock of the like, but more opace, about a Foot in Circumference; but from whence I know not, it being given to my Father about 40 Years ago. Crystalized Spar very curious from the Iron-ores in Cumberland from the Benefactor last mentioned, from whom I received most of the Spars that follow.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

Lapis Astroitidis, commonly called the Brainstones; they are frequently found in the Seas about Jamaica, as big as a Man's Head; this is half a Yard in Circumference one Way, and two Foot the other: It is curiously undulated; the Ridges in this are very high, and the transverse Striæ very fine, the winding of the Waves imitate the Gyri or Aufractus of a Man's Brain, whence the Name. A small one very fine, given by Dr. Lister to my Father, not unlike Point-work wrought by the Needle. A larger sent me by Mr. Char. Towneley of T. with the Top rising high and round; the Furrows in this are small. Another I bought at London, which is very curious, and being two Inches thick on one Side; the thin Plates, which compose the small Cells, and the Formation of the Stone is better discerned. A white Corall sent me from Ireland, with flat Lamina; it resembles the Astropodium ramulosum of Lh. Tab. 14. 1132. c. A Mushroom Corall somewhat compress'd, striated above, the inner Part below; it is of a like fine Texture, with the small Striæ of the Brain-stone. A fungus Lapideus in Form of an Hemisphere, a larger Starry Fungites, both sent me, with other valuable Fossils, from Roger Gale Esq; Astroites or starred Stone, a thin one with less perfect Stars, shewing their Original when beginning to grow or sprout up at the Bottom of the Sea (c)(c) Dr. Sloane's Nat. Hist. of Jam. Tab. XXI. Fig. I.. A large porous Convex Astroites, a Foot in Circumference, wholly composed of radiated Stars, like Fig. 4. in the same Table. Some of these Sorts of Coralls are frequently found in Europe, and particularly in England. I have one Sort from North Leach in Gloc. with very fair Stars, though it seems by the Lightness to be petrified Wood. A solid Corall, with concave Stars, very fair. Another, like Mr. Lhwyd's Astroites pyxidatus seu faviginosus from Oxfordshire. A slender Branch of white Corall from Ireland. A Mycetites surrounded with Astroites. (d) Grew's Mus. Reg. Soc. p. 305.Lapis Cribriformis or Sieve-stone (d), a perforated brown Stone. (e) Nat. Hist. Oxon. p. 139. A Porpites Plotii (e), & Lhuidii (f) from the Bishop of Carlisle. (f) Lith. Brit. N° 142. Another Button-stone more compress'd, but very fair; from Mr. Gale, Specimen minus & elegantius, Tab. 3. 151.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

A large Ball of Stone shot out of the Cannon called the Queen's Pocket-Pistol, in the late Wars from Cavalier-Hill into this Street; it is yet above a Yard in Circumference. Don. Hen. Pawson Merc. Leod. A curious Spur of Sir Ferd. Legh's, a Colonel for K. Charles I. the Rowell of a dozen Points 3 ½ Inches from the Heel, the whole curiously wrought and gilded. General Fairfax's Sword Hilt, the Guard, or Basket Work inlaid with Silver, found at Nun-Apleton, and given me by Will. Milner Esq; present Lord of that Mannor. Spurs of the like Workmanship. A Protestant Flayle, given me by a Popish Recusant. A small Man of War, which by Means of a covert Conveyance through the Body of the Ship, discharges 16 Guns: It was made by Order of Mr. John Thoresby. A small Cannon.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

A small Fragment of Capt. Eliot's Canoe, wherein he made his Escape from Petty Guaves in the West-Indies, and gave the Governour of Jamaica Notice that the French were coming to surprize that Island, by which Means it was saved: He sailed sixty Leagues without Compass in three Days, and had no Sustenance for himself and two Blacks but a little raw Flesh; for which signal Service K. William gave him the Command of a Man of War. The Canoe hangs up in Greenwich Hospital. A Truncheon of Sir Francis Drake's Ship, wherewith he surrounded the World; Queen Elizabeth order'd it to be drawn up in a little Creek near Deptford, whence this was sent to my Father.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

NEPTUNENeptune upon the Hippocapmus, with a Trident in one Hand, and a Dolphin in the other, resting upon the Head of the Sea-Horse, whose Fore-part and Legs are of a dark Colour, the hinder Parts and Tail blewish, and scaled like a Fish: The Body of the Deity is of a tawny Carnation, the Head is unhappily wanting, only the Tassels of the Beard extend to the Breast. It is of Earthen Ware, and very well performed, about ten Inches high to the Shoulders, and the rest proportionable. Tis different from all the modern Sorts of Earthen Ware that I have observed, which hath made the Description more particular, to know whether the Criticks will allow it to be of Roman Antiquity; in which Times we are told they had Images of their Gods, not only of Silver, Brass and Stone, but Earthen Ware. I should not have been so pendulous if I was certain that it was found at Aldburgh, (from whence my Father had many Roman Curiosities transmitted by Mr. Gilbert the Vicar) but being then very young, I cannot be positive.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

The Head of Seneca in Plaister; it is very large, a Yard within six Inches round, seems to be ancient and very agreeable to his Statue at Rome: This was amongst the Lord Fairfax's Curiosities. Atlas. An Emperor's Bust. Helena's. Laocoon and his Sisters. Archbishop Dolben's, from his Tomb. Mr. John Thoresby's the Antiquary. A Skeleton in Metal; it is well done, but only to the short Ribs. Venus and Cupid in Wax-work. A Sort of Bachus, or Antick, pouring out Liquor, with a Bull's Head betwixt his Thighs, or perhaps a Rams, relating to some Local Custom, like that of a Flitch of Bacon at Dunmoe in Essex: It is of Wood, and hath in old Characters Belly merry In a different script.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

The Head of a Crosier's Staff; it is of Copper gilt and enamel'd, in the Form of a Serpent, the Scales of a changeable Blew, very natural, but so is not the Head, which being designed for Shew on both Sides, has a Face and two Eyes on each Side. Don. D. Sam. Smith. Part of a Priest's Habit, concealed at the Reformation in a double bottom Ark near a Chantry in Leedes: It has three Pictures of St. Peter, &c. delicately wrought in Silver and Silk of divers Colours; part of the said Vestment fell into the Hands of one who burnt it merely for the Silver's Sake, though she had too much before; but this, and a Manuscript found with it, were preserved by my Father. The Pix, or huel-bozhusel-bozhuel-boxhusel-box (a little Iron Locket) from Kirkstal Abbey for the Eucharist, or haliᵹe huelhalige husel, as I apprehend from Linwood's Const. Prov. but am since told by a Person of Honour, that it was for preserving the Relicks, which Party having been at Rome, with the last Ambassador that was sent from the Crown of England to the Pope, may well be presumed very knowing in these Matters; however it comes under the more general Notion of huel-fauhusel-fatu, or Vasa Sacra; (Wheelock's Bede, p. 98.) As also doth the Foot of a Lamp, or leoh-æleoht-faet; it is of Copper engraved in Branches, with this Inscription in old Letters, (The S in Jesus like C) Ihc. Nazarenus, rex Judeorum fili Dei Miserere mei. The Figure of St. Anthony in Padua, in an Oval Copper very well per formed in Bass-Relieve, embracing and kissing our Saviour, who in the Form of a lovely Child, sits upon his Book; (see Patrick's Reflect. p. 322.) Don. Jo. Boulter Arm. The Picture of St. Anthony the Hermit, with his Bell, Book and Pig, the Prayer to him for Cure of the Inflammation commonly called St. Anthony's Fire, may be seen in the Horæ beatæ Mariæ, before-mentioned, p. 84. b. This came from a Religious House in Derbyshire, and was given me by the Rev. Mr. Jackson Rector of Addel: It is painted upon Glass, as is also the Holy Banner, with Spes mea in Deo est; the Crown of Thorns, and other Fragments of Crucifixes, from the Windows of the Parish Church at Leedes. But what is most remarkable is a small Quarry from York-Minster, (Don. Hen. Gyles,) wherein a Goose in a Religious Habit is carrying the Crosier's Staff, &c. the Procession is made up of the like Fowls: This seems to have been made in Hatred of the Monks, whom the Secular Clergy abhorred for encroaching upon their Rights, and being now repossessed thereof, recriminate, &c.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

Amulets. Glain Neidir or Adder-Beads; here are two from Wales, sent me by Mr. Lhwyd, of which see his accurate Description of that Principality in the Britannia, pag. 683, and the Figure of them, pag. 697. One is of blew Glass with white Snakes upon it. The other curiously undulated with blew, white, and red. These he takes to have been used by the Druids themselves, and so handed down from Parents to Children every since. It is most certain that the Ignorant and Credulous are so fond of them, that they will not part with them for Love or Money; and not only the Vulgar, but Persons of good Education are fully persuaded, that the Snakes make them; that they are Preservatives from all Dangers, and that whoever finds one will prosper in all his Undertakings. The said Author gives also the Figure of one of Earth enamel'd, with blew, and furrowed on the Out-side, of which Sort I have one that was found in the Roman Burying-Place at Yorke, and the Fragments of a smooth one that hath been larger. One of Jeat, and another of Amber, that being found singly in ancient Ruins, and another of a Sort of Agate, or reddish Stone polished, seem to have been applied to the like Uses. Of the Jeat Rings there is another Sort much larger, viz. two Inches, or 2 ½ Diameter, which being too large for Rings, and too small for Armillæ or Bracelets, have probably been used also as Amulets. A thin one with Notches on the outer Edge, was sent me by my Lord Bishop of Carlisle, and a thicker waved, was given my Father by Dr. Lister; and both, if I mistake not, found with Roman Antiquities. A round flat Stone perforated in the Center doth exactly fit one of these Rings; it was found amongst the Roman Monuments at Adle before-mentioned, pag. 162. A Brass Head like that found in Denbighshire, and is engraved, as an Amulet, Cam. Brit. Pag 697. save that this hath an Helmet.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

THEThe Houses of Parliament curiously enammel'd upon Gold. Thomas Lord Fairfax the General of their Forces, upon Chessnut his Charging-Horse, with distant Prospects of Armies, Gladiators, &c. and in a Scroll, Sic radiant Fideles: Upon the other Side is the fatal Battle at Naseby. All three are express'd with so much Art, that the Metal, tho' Gold, is but as Dross compared with the Workmanship; in a Scroll is writ non nobis. The Whole comprised in an Inch and half Diameter, yet so exquisitely performed, that the Countenances of particular Persons may be discovered. It was a Present from the Parliament to the General, and was purchased by my Father with his noble Collection of Medals. Materiam superabat opus. A very broad antique Gold Ring, supposed to have been that of Richard Duke of Yorke (Father to K. Edw. 4th), being found in the Place where he was slain (which is to be perpetually fenced in, by Vertue of the Tenure of the Land) near Wakefield Bridge: Upon the Out-side is engraved the Picture of the Virgin Mary, with our Saviour and two other Saints; and upon the In-side, in the Characters of that Age, pour bon Amour. The Frame of an Hour Glass of Copper, of fine Workmanship, the Figures very ancient. ATalbot within the Garter under an Earl's Coronet, engraved upon Mother of Pearl. The Head of K. Charles I. painted to be set in a Ring. That of Christina Queen of Sweden, curiously enamell'd in the same Compass; her Successor's, Carolus Gustavus, of great Value, because in a less Compass, being little more than a Quarter of an Inch, yet very distinct. Two Hands conjoined, in white Enamel.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713) 158. Funeral Sermons for Algernounn Earl of Northumberland, 1668. Tho. Lord Fairfax, 1671, by Mr. Stretton. Mr. John Thoresby, 1679, by Mr. Sharp. Ursula Lady Barwick, 1682, by Mr. Corlass. A Poem upon Mr. Bowles Death, 1662. Sermons at the Funerals of Mr. Edm. Hough, 1691, by Mr. Will. Corlass; and Mr. Philip Henry, 1696, by Mr. Fran. Tallents. A Pastoral Elegy for Dr. Tim. Manlove, 1699, by Mr. John Turnbull.
Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

159. Nummorum Antiquorum Thesaurus; by the Rev. Mr. Stonehouse, Rector of Darfield Com. Ebor. Upon whose Death the ancient Coins and Medals, of which this contains the Chronological Series, were purchased by Tho. Lord Faifax, of whose Executors, Mr. John Thoresby purchased both those, and his Lordship's own valuable Collection; all which are part of the preceding Catalogue. To those of the said three noted Antiquaries are now added what I have been able to procure at my own Expence, or by the Kindness of my Friends, for near Forty Years past.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713) 161. Scarborough Spaw spagyrically anatomized, by George Tonstal M.D. This was printed 1670; with Recomendatory Verses, by Mr. Illingworth, President of Emanuel College; and Mr. Jo. Thoresby of Leedes. De morbis humani corporis, by Rich. Perrot B.D. and Licent in Physick, his Autograph. A Book of useful Receipts and Medicines.
Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713) 260. The Government of the Town of Leedes before it was made a Corporation, drawn up by John Harrison Esq; from whose Autograph (penes Alderm. Tho. Dixon) I transcribed it. His Letter to Baron Rigby. His Prayer. This is not amongst those printed at the Request of his Friends 1647, (by Mr. John Jackson of Berwick.) Londons Exequies 1666, by the Learned Mr. Tho. Sharp. His Verses for and against Sleep (printed through Mistake as Cleavlands.) His Epitaph upon Mr. Elk. Wales, and Mr. John Thoresby.
Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

Here is also a Roman Altar, found at or near Pierse-Bridge, whence my Father procured it; tis mentioned as his by our common Friend Dr. Lister (Phil. Col. N°4.) and the Figure of it already twice engraved, viz. in the new Editions of Camden's Britannia (p. 782.) and Antoninus's Itinerary (pag. 50.) it is but 11 Inches in Height, and eight in Breadth. The distinct mention of CONDATI or CONDATE (for by the Distance from the Side there seem to have been liniolæ annexed to I) would almost tempt one to believe, thar Consley in that Neighbourhood was the ancient Condate, which Camden placeth in Cheshire, but that the learned Mr. Gale's Reasons add Strength to the former Conjecture. It will not however be denied, but that Consley as well as Congleton was in all Probability then called Condate; and I am the more confirmed in my Opinion (p. 161.) that the Romans had several Cities of the same Name, because my said honoured Friend Roger Gale Esq; informs me that the Ravennate Geographer hath no less than five Alauna's. The last Line, as I take it, is to be read ex jussu solvit libente animo.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713)

Four Cornelian Signets, one hath the Head of Augustus with a radiated Crown. Another hath Dea Fortuna, with a Rudder of a Ship, to denote Government, in her Right Hand, and a Cornucopiæ in her Left to signify Plenty. The third is a large one, and hath a winged Victory, with a Palm, with the like Gubernaculum, and Abundantiæ-cornu. The fourth seems to be an Emperor or General in a Martial Habit, with the Paludamentum, &c. Whether all the four came to my Father from Aldbrough, I am not certain; but the three next, viz. an Onix and two Cornelians were found at Baie near Rome, and were brought thence and presented to me by Richard Ellis, of Nocton, Esq; the first hath a Pomgranate; the second Piety with an Altar, and the third a Horse, as upon the double Denarius, N° 8, p. 281. This antique Signet is different from all I have seen being engraven upon the Convex Side of the Stone. Here are also a very small Onyx and Cornelian but 1/8 of an Inch broad, whereupon are Mullets of six Points.

Thoresby, Musaeum Thoresbyanum (1713) Here are the Fragments of one given to my Father by Dr. Lister, and of another to me by my Lord Bishop of Carlisle, the one is near half an Inch thick, and waved upon the outer Edge; the other half a Quarter and indented, both polished, and even within; they are about 2 ½ Inches Diameter, so that tis no easy Matter to tell what they were originally designed for, (except perhaps as Amulets) because they could never be worn either as Armilla, or Anuli.
A Catalogue of the Naturall and Artificial Curiositys in my slender Musaeum at Leedes Ano. 1708 the Effigies of Thomas Lord Fairfax the Generall, with the prospect of an Army at a distance, on one side, of a Battle at large (I presume yt of Naseby) on the other 'tis enameld upon Gold with the most exquisite art, being a Present from the Parliamt to that Lord, of whose Executors it was purchased with his noble Collection of Coins & medalls by my honored father. materiam supurabat opus